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28th-Nov-2012 09:00 pm
Hi everyone, new member. I love Walking Dead! My husband and I watch it every week! Unfortunately we don't really have people to discuss our thoughts on the show with. So I thought I would post here.

Something I was thinking about from the moment Laurie found out she was pregnant, is what if the baby is the key to curing the zombie disease. What if someone somewhere at some point tests her blood and sees that she's not infected and uses her somehow to cure those that are still alive?
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29th-Nov-2012 03:04 am (UTC)
Although interesting, that's kind of not where I see the show going at all. Their focus is on survival. Yes, we've seen a few people trying to find some sort of cure, but they're not the focus of the show.

But, with your thought then any baby born after the whole zombie started should be immune as well. But being immune from turning into a zombie doesn't really help too much. Sure, they don't have to worry about being a zombie, but they still have to worry about being bit and eaten alive. The zombies aren't going to stop feasting unless they are killed. And then the person still has to be afraid of infection. You know, bacteria from the mouth of a dead creature that eats other creatures.

Also, how/why are they going to be able to test said blood from the baby(or however old she is)? If she does get bit I don't see them hanging around and wishing she'll be fine. Probably chop off a body part or kill her so she doesn't turn.

I might be wrong (I usually am), but I don't feel like the show is going to have a special someone be a cure to end it all. Not trying to be mean. Just my thoughts. And welcome to the community. :)
29th-Nov-2012 03:49 am (UTC)
This. All of this. Add on that Kirkman's said he's not interested in what caused or if there's a cure for the infection, I doubt this aspect will ever be addressed. On the show or in the graphic novels.
29th-Nov-2012 06:56 am (UTC)
i never read the comics so idk what happens there but i thought they were going to do a possible cure line after the CDC episode. plus andrea was sick with no explanation and then got sick again with michonne so i thought it was a hint that she was special. doesn't seem to be that way and the plot/characters have changed since then so i don't think they'd focus on a cure. at best, a safe spot to try and ride it out.
29th-Nov-2012 08:29 am (UTC)
If the baby isnt infected then theoreticaly anyone born after the initual infection just has to wait for the.current zombies to rot away and for.their parents to rot away as zimbies. it would probably take a few generations but then there would be no more zombies
30th-Nov-2012 12:10 am (UTC)
They could pretty well eradicate zombies without waiting for it to "die out". If they make part of burial to destroy the brains, that takes care of that. While I'm sure someone out there must possess an immunity to the sickness, unless it's hardwired into the DNA (something which is scientifically proven - we all carry a gene, if activated, could produce zombie-like behavior), then I doubt anyone would be. Maybe it could recess again in the genes after a few generations, though. I just really highly doubt the show will address it. Glen Mazarra and Kirkman have both said they have no interest in exploring that side of the Z-pocalypse story.
29th-Nov-2012 01:41 pm (UTC)
I like to think that she is immune. I don't know if it matters to the present story or not.

After the plague killed a third of Europe milk maids were very popular wives because for some reason they never got sick with it. It turned out there was an enzime on the cows skin that protected them. It took hundreds of years to figure out and use it to any benefit though. Did I bore you with that info?
29th-Nov-2012 04:11 pm (UTC)
thats interesting..i had never heard that about the plague!
30th-Nov-2012 07:00 am (UTC)
nope, no boredom :)
29th-Nov-2012 05:27 pm (UTC)
Well I know what happens to Judith in the comics but the show could take things in a different direction (I hope they will) so you never know....

I dont really see the show being about finding a cure, maybe right at the end in the last season to give us some closure, but for now I think its more about survival

welcome to the community!
29th-Nov-2012 11:33 pm (UTC) - Welcome!
Welcome to the site, Sophie!! I'm a newbie too, and everyone here's been really lovely and responsive so far. :)

It has crossed my mind that Judith might possess an immunity. It'd make a lot of sense for her to - developing inside an infected Lori would give a lot of chance for antibodies to form.

However, like some other people said, in the world they're in now there's not much chance of her blood ever being tested, so we might not know even if she does have immunity. I also like that the theme of this show is about how to survive, not "the team goes on a quest to save the world", which would turn it into a very different beast.

...Although I can totally see some psycho scientist wanting to get his hands on the baby to test her, Milton-style, and they have to save her before she gets experimented on like a lab-rat...
1st-Dec-2012 01:54 am (UTC) - Re: Welcome!
this board is SO much better than the imdb walking dead board!

Less trolls and fools!
30th-Nov-2012 01:16 am (UTC)
But how did everybody get infected? It wasn't there before the ZA, or in its beginning. So they got it through something: probably not through spit, sounds very unlikely, but through accidentally getting zombie guts/blood in mucuous membrane i.e. the mouth, or in a wound. Honestly I wondered all the time when they would get infected without being bitten. I mean they are covered in zombie blood ALL THE TIME. While having lots of scrapes. Hands covered in zombie blood - you always accidentally end up putting your hand in your mouth. I was seriously waiting for this to happen, lol.

As the baby grew inside her body, sharing blood, it would have gotten the infection through the blood.

(Also new here; hi!)
30th-Nov-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
I suspect it's airborne. What Rick was told by Dr. Jenner at the CDC was that everyone is infected.

But I think you make a good point! These people are always covered with zombie gore -- and it's easy enough to absorb that in some fashion (mouth, nostrils, open sores, etc.).

The confusing thing is that you can be bitten and survive (as Herschel did)...

Well, it might not be perfect, but obviously we're all entertained!
30th-Nov-2012 02:48 am (UTC)
The confusing thing is that you can be bitten and survive (as Herschel did)...

The bites seem to work like snake venom. Except in these cases, if you completely remove the limb, you can stop the bite infection from killing.
30th-Nov-2012 01:39 am (UTC)
I would love to see the initial infection.

And babies and mothers don't actually share blood. It woul be possible for the mother to have a disease and for the baby not to get it
30th-Nov-2012 01:22 am (UTC)

I think when it comes to the series, we always have to take the graphic novels into consideration. They don't follow them exactly, but they DO follow them to some degree...

I don't think it spoils the TV show to say that Judith dies in the comics, because we don't know if that means she'll die on the show or not. But many characters who dies in the comics have also died on the show, even if they didn't die in the same way.

(No, I don't really follow the comics -- but early on I did research that took me to Wikipedia and the info there...)

I get the feeling that neither the TV show nor the comics really care about immunity or research, which seems a bit OFF to me. I'd like to think if this were really happening that people would never give up on finding a cure, no matter what...

Again, glad to have you here!
30th-Nov-2012 02:51 am (UTC)
I'd like to think if this were really happening that people would never give up on finding a cure, no matter what..

I don't disagree but is that really gonna be Rick's group? They're consumed every single day with just trying to stay safe, find food and not become food. People who may be still locked up in CDC-like underground facilities have the luxury and the know-how to try to find a cure, if one exists. It makes sense to me regular folks like Rick and most everyone they've met wouldn't be involved in that aspect of it.
30th-Nov-2012 06:01 am (UTC)
i think the main reason that research on immunity isn't dealt with in the comics or the show is because the creators wanted to show a total collapse of society and how a group would deal it -- total collapse, thus, no cdc or research groups around to even try to make an effort.

jenner (if that was his name? the cdc scientist, in any case) was already spiraling downwards when the group arrived to stay for the night, and he made it pretty clear that once france had went, there wasn't any hope left, unless there's some small group of scientists in a backwater lab trying to find a cure, which seems both improbable and unlikely :( no one would be around to test lori's blood, and considering the state of her body now, there's absolutely no way anyone could, even if they somehow found a doctor with the proper facilities to do so.

welcome to the community! ♥
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